Lord Robert CORBET

Lord Robert CORBET

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  1. 1.  Lord Robert CORBETLord Robert CORBET föddes ca 1042 i Pays de Caux, Normandy, Frankrike; dog ca 1121 i Alcester, Warwickshire, England; begravdes i Warwickshire, UK.

    Noteringar:

    Robert Corbet, lord of Alcester
    Also Known As: "Robert Corbeau"
    Birthdate: cirka 1042
    Birthplace: Pays de Caux, Normandy, France
    Death: cirka 1121 (71-87)
    Alcester, Warwickshire, England
    Begravningsort: Warwickshire, UK
    Närstående:
    Son till Sir Hugh Corbet, Jarl of Caux och Isabella Corbet
    Make till Adèle d'Alcester
    Fader till Sybil Corbet, Lady of Alcester, Concubine #5 Of Henry I Of England; Robert Corbet, Lord of Alcester och Alice Corbet
    Bror till Lord Hugh Corbet, of Caux; Roger FitzCorbet, Baron of Caus; Renauld Corbeau Corbet Lord Fecamp; Petronell Corbet och Isabel Corbet
    Occupation: Knight, Sieur, d'Alcester, Bourgeois, de Caen



    About Robert Corbet, lord of Alcester
    ROBERT [I] Corbet

    From Medlands:
    http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3.htm#SibylCorbetdiedafter1157

    (-after 1124). Domesday Book records that "Robert Fitz Corbet" held the manors of Woodcote, parish of Shrewsbury St Chad, and Longden, both in Shropshire[1815]. Henry I King of England granted the manor of Alcester, Warwickshire to Robert Corbet[1816]. "Rogerius filius Corbet, Robertus frater eius" subscribed the charter dated to [May 1121] under which Henry I King of England confirmed Shrewsbury abbey[1817]. A manuscript reciting the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records donations including by "Robertus Corbeth" of “villam…Lochetonam”, with the consent of "filius eius Robertus"[1818]. "…Robto Corbet…" witnessed the charter dated to [1119/24] under which "David comes filii Malcolmi regis Scotorum" founded the monastery of Kelso[1819]. "…Robertus Corbet…" witnessed the charter, dated to the reign of Alexander I King of Scotland, under which "David predicti regis Scotie germanum…Cumbrensis regionis princeps" listed the lands of the church of Glasgow[1820]. "…Rob Corbet…" witnessed the undated charter under which David I King of Scotland donated property to "ecclesie sci Johis de castro de Rokesburg"[1821]. m [firstly] ---. The name of Robert´s [first] wife is not known. m [secondly] ---. The name of Robert´s [second] wife is not known. The fact of this second marriage is suggested by the difference in age between his two daughters, as explained below.
    Robert & his [first] wife had one child:
    a) SIBYL Corbet

    ([1090/95]-after 1157). The Complete Peerage deduces her parentage, relationship with King Henry, and her marriage from a charter, dated to [1163/75], of her son "Reginaldus, Henrici Regis filius, comes Cornubiæ" by which he granted property to "Willielmo de Boterell, filio Aliziæ Corbet, materteræ meæ" which he had granted to "Willielmo de Boterells in Cornubia, patri…predicti Willielmi" on his marriage, witnessed by "Nicholao filio meo…Herberto filio Herberti, Baldwino et Ricardo nepotibus meis, Willelmo de Vernun, Willielmo fratre meo…Hugone de Dunstanvill…"[1822]. The [1125/35] birth date range estimated for her son Herbert, born from this marriage, suggests that she married after her relationship with the king. Lady of Alcester and Pontesbury. The Pipe Roll of 1157 records a payment to "the mother of Earl Reginald" from an estate at Mienes, Sussex[1823]. Mistress ([1110/15]) of HENRY I King of England, son of WILLIAM I "the Conqueror" King of England & his wife Mathilde de Flandre (Selby, Yorkshire Sep 1068-Château de Lyon-la-Forêt, near Rouen 1 Dec 1135, bur Reading Abbey, Berkshire). m ([1115/25]) HERBERT FitzHerbert, son of HERBERT FitzHenry & his first wife Emma de Blois (-before 1165).
    Robert & his [second] wife had two children:
    b) ROBERT [II] Corbet

    (-after Jul 1141). "…Roberto Corbet…" is named as present at a second donation by “Mylo constabularius de Gloucestria” to Lanthony abbey, undated but following an earlier donation dated 1137[1824]. It is not known with certainty that this Robert Corbet was the son of the earlier Robert Corbet. However, the latter would have been very old at the time if the charter refers to him. A manuscript reciting the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records donations including by "Robertus Corbeth" of “villam…Lochetonam”, with the consent of "filius eius Robertus"[1825]. "…Rob Corbet…" witnessed the charter dated [Jul 1141/Dec 1142] under which Empress Matilda permitted "Milon com Heref" to hold the castle and honour of Abergavenny, from "Bri fil com et Matild de Walengeford uxor sue"[1826]. The absence of any later reference either to Robert [II] or to any possible children suggests that he died childless, maybe before he married, which in turn would suggest that he may have been born from his father´s supposed second marriage. Another possibility is that he settled in Scotland, where Walter Corbet and his descendants are recorded from the end of the 12th century (see the document UNTITLED SCOTTISH NOBILITY).

    c) ALICE Corbet ([1115/20]-). Eyton states that "Alice, daughter and eventual co-heir of Robert fitz Corbet married William Botterell of Cornwall", adding that the marriage must be dated to after 1140 as on her marriage her nephew Renaud Earl of Cornwall gave her property at "Cracunton and Bidun", both in Cornwall, which he assesses would only have been his after his installation as earl in that year[1827]. Renaud Earl of Cornwall issued a charter for William de Boterel which names his mother "matertere mee Aliz Corbet"[1828]. However, if this is correct, it is extremely unlikely that Alice could have been born from the same marriage of her father as her sister Sibyl. m (1140 or after) WILLIAM Boterel [I], son of --- (-[1165/75]). Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Willelmus de Boterellis" held one knight´s fee from the bishop of Exeter in Devon and twelve knights´ fees from "comitis Reginaldi" in Cornwall[1829].

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert Corbet, Lord of Alcester, was of Longden in Shropshire, and of Alcester in Warwickshire.

    He was a Domesday tenant of Earl Roger in Shropshire in 1084.

    See "My Lines"

    ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p63.htm#i8067 )

    from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

    ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )

    Corbet, of Alcester at Warwickshire
    Robert Corbet, Lord of Alcester was of Longden at Shropshire, England.2 He was fourth son of Corbet.3,4 He was of Alcester at Warwickshire, England.2 He was born circa 1060?. He was the son of Corbet de Normandie.1 Robert Corbet, Lord of Alcester was a Domesday tenant of Earl Roger in Shropshire in 1084.1
    Caux Castle was built by Roger fitz Corbet (1050–1134) a domesday founder for his family, and is named for his homeland in Pays de Caux, Normandy, France, and was the seat of their Marcher Lordships granted under Roger de Montgomery (Roger de Montgomeri), Earl of Shrewsbury (Shropshire) and King William the Conqueror.

    The early outer earthworks of the site are probably an Iron Age hillfort, while the later motte-and-bailey is of Norman construction.

    Roger le Corbet (or Fitz Corbet) was granted several manors in Shropshire in 1069 by William the Conqueror as the Barony of Caus for his role in the Norman conquest and invasion of England. They were named after his Normandy estate in the Pays de Caux. The Corbets owed fealty to Roger de Montgomery, Earl of Shrewsbury to help control Welsh Marches with absolute control over their demesne. Caus Castle was built by Roger le Corbet in the late 11th century as a high motte with a very small summit on which stood a tower and a strongly defended inner bailey.

    The castle was sufficiently important that the Crown took an interest in its maintenance. Henry II of England had it garrisoned in 1165. In 1198 Roger Corbet re-built the tower, keep and curtain wall in stone. During the late 12th century a town or borough was founded in the large outer Bailey. A royal grant of 50 marks was made in 1263 towards further building work, when D-shape towers were added to the curtain wall. On the death of Beatrice Corbet in 1347 Caus passed to the Earl of Stafford.

    Caus was garrisoned by the Seneschal Griffith ap Ieuan ap Madoc ap Gwenwys against the rebellion of Owain Glynd?r in the 15th century, but following calls from Welsh graduates in law and students in the University of Oxford he changed sides and supported Glynd?r. As a result his family lands and role at Caus Castle were forfeited in 1404, only to be restored by Henry V of England in 1419 after his sons Ieuan ap Griffith and Sir Gruffudd Vychan captured John Oldcastle for Lord Charlton of Powys.

    On 10 Aug. 1443, at Caus Castle Sir Gruffudd Vychan pierced with a lance the heart of his master, Sir Christopher Talbot (1419–1443), son of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, and the champion tilter of England. He was outlawed, a reward of 500 marks (£166 6s 8d) offered for his capture, and his lands were passed to John Sutton, 1st Baron Dudley, as the death of the young knight was not regarded as an accident. The Earl of Stafford rarely used the castle in the 15th and 16th centuries so that it decayed, and was finally deserted after it was destroyed in 1645.

    Grazebrook's chart on page 133 indicates a older brother for Rogerus Corbet: "Robertus cognominatus Corbet flouit tempore Will's Conq. vt apparet in Registro abbathæ de Salop a? 1187 (witnessed the charter of Henry I. to the Abbey of Shrewsbury 1121; held fifteen manors in Salop (county Shropshire). Arms: Or, a raven sable, a label of two points azure (Grazebrook, 1623 Visit, p. 133).

    This Robert Corbet had sons and a daughter: Robertus Corbet de Alcester in comn. Warr; Henricus ==Sibilla ==Henricus 1 Rex Anglae; and Alicia vx. Willelmi Botreaux. Three chart pages of descendants in Shropshire. This chart has three generations on page 133, continued pages 134 to 138.

    Grazebrook states Robert FitzCorbet held 15 manors. In Hinde's Domesday, I found 12 in Shropshire alloted by Earl Roger Montgomery. Hinde's had about 31 for his brother Roger. Roger Corbet, however, held four or five jointly with Earl Roger Montgomery. Robert and Roger Corbet were in seizen together in Rorrington and The Marsh. Robert had Picot with him in Brompton, and an Ertein (pre-conquest holder) sharing Middleton. Brompton [Brantune] in Berrington; Choulton [Cautune]; Longdon [Langedune]; Marrington [Mentune]; Middleton [Mildetune] in Chirbury, Robert FitzCorbet and Ertein; Priest Weston [Westune]; Ratlinghope [Roetelingehope]; Rorrington [Roritune], Roger and Robert Corbet, sons of Corbet; The Marsh [Me(r)sse], Roger and Robert Corbet, sons of Corbet; Womerton [Umbruntune]; Woodcote [Udecote] in Bicton; Woolsaston [Ulestanestune] Robert FitzCorbet.

    It is NOT KNOWN who Robert Corbet but he had two wives.
    Sources:
    Keats-Rohan, K.S.B. Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons Occuring in English Documents, 1066-1166. I Domesday Book. The Boydell Press, 1999. p. 400.

    Robert Corbet or Corbeau, came over with his father and brother during the Conquest. He was the younger brother. At the time of the survey he held fourteen lordships in Shropshire.

    Familj/Make/Maka: Adele DALCESTER. Adele föddes 1056 i Alcester, Warwickshire, England; dog 1131. [Familjeöversikt] [Familjediagram]

    Barn:
    1. 2. Sybilla CORBET  Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt föddes den 1065 - 1075 i Alcester, Warwickshire, England; dog 1125 i Blaen, Llyfni, Brecknockshire, Wales.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Sybilla CORBETSybilla CORBET Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt (1.Robert1) föddes den 1065 - 1075 i Alcester, Warwickshire, England; dog 1125 i Blaen, Llyfni, Brecknockshire, Wales.

    Noteringar:

    Sybil Sybilla Corbet, Lady of Alcester, Concubine # 5 of Henry I of England
    Litauiska: Sibil? Korbet iš Alkesterio, Lady
    Also Known As: "Lady of Alcester", "Warwickshire", "Concubine #5 of Henry I", "Lucy", "Sybilla /Le Corbet/", "Adela", "Lucia Corbet", "Sibilant Corbeau", "Also known as (Sybilla) (Adela) (Lucy)"
    Birthdate: 1075
    Birthplace: Alcester, Warwickshire, England
    Death: cirka 1157 (78-86)
    Blaen, Llyfni, Brecknockshire, Wales (Blaen, Llyfni, Brecknockshire, Wales)
    Begravningsort: Pontesbury and Woodcote, Co. Salop
    Närstående:
    Dotter till Robert Corbet, lord of Alcester och Adèle d'Alcester
    Hustru till Herbert Fitz Herbert, lord of Blaen Llyfni
    Partner till Henrik I, kung av England
    Moder till Robert FitzHerbert; Henry FitzHerbert; William Fitz Herbert; Herbert Fitz Herbert, Lord Chamberlain; William FitzRoy; Réginald de Dunstanville, 1st Earl of Cornwall; Rohese FitzRoy och Gundred FitzRoy « mindre
    Syster till Robert Corbet, Lord of Alcester och Alice Corbet
    Occupation: Royal Mistress, Henrio I meiluž?, Concubine, kungafrilla i England



    About Sybil Corbet, Lady of Alcester, Concubine #5 Of Henry I Of England
    The following from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#_Toc159664189

    Shows that Sibyl Corbet was probably NOT daughter of Isabel:

    Mistress (5): ([1110/15]) SIBYL Corbet, daughter of ROBERT Corbet of Alcester, co Warwick & his [first] wife --- (-after 1157). The Complete Peerage deduces her parentage, relationship with King Henry, and her marriage from a charter, dated to [1163/75], of her son "Reginaldus, Henrici Regis filius, comes Cornubiæ" by which he granted property to "Willielmo de Boterell, filio Aliziæ Corbet, materteræ meæ" which he had granted to "Willielmo de Boterells in Cornubia, patri…predicti Willielmi" on his marriage, witnessed by "Nicholao filio meo…Herberto filio Herberti, Baldwino et Ricardo nepotibus meis, Willelmo de Vernun, Willielmo fratre meo…Hugone de Dunstanvill…"[132]. She married ([1115/25]) Herbert FitzHerbert. The [1125/35] birth date range estimated for her son Herbert, born from this marriage, suggests that she married after her relationship with the king. The Pipe Roll of 1157 records a payment to "the mother of Earl Reginald" from an estate at Mienes, Sussex[133].

    King Henry I had [four] illegitimate children by Mistress (5):

    11. RENAUD [de Dunstanville] ([1110/15]-Chertsey, Surrey 1 Jul [1175], bur Reading Abbey). Guillaume de Jumièges names "Rainaldus, Robertus, Gislebertus" as three illegitimate sons of King Henry I, adding that they were “adhuc iuvenes sine casamero”[253]. He is named as son of King Henry by Orderic Vitalis[254]. The Chronicle of Gervase names "fratre suo Reginaldo comite Cornubiæ" as one of the main supporters of Matilda[255]. The Complete Peerage deduces his mother´s identity from the charter, dated to [1163/75], under which "Reginaldus, Henrici Regis filius, comes Cornubiæ" granted property to "Willielmo de Boterell, filio Aliziæ Corbet, materteræ meæ" which he had granted to "Willielmo de Boterells in Cornubia, patri…predicti Willielmi" on his marriage, witnessed by "Nicholao filio meo…Herberto filio Herberti, Baldwino et Ricardo nepotibus meis, Willelmo de Vernun, Willielmo fratre meo…Hugone de Dunstanvill…"[256]. His birth date range is estimated on the basis of his marriage in [1141]. According to Domesday Descendants[257], "de Dunstanville" was a label only attributed to him by Orderic Vitalis. He inherited large areas of land in Cornwall, by right of his wife on his marriage and was created Earl of Cornwall in [Apr 1141] by his half-sister Maud, after successfully leading a rebellion in her favour in the West Country[258]. The title was later fully recognised by King Stephen. - EARLS of CORNWALL.

    12. [WILLIAM (-after 1187). "…Herberto filio Herberti…Willielmo fratre meo…" subscribed the charter, dated to [1163/75], under which "Reginaldus, Henrici Regis filius, comes Cornubiæ" granted property to "Willielmo de Boterell, filio Aliziæ Corbet, materteræ meæ" which he had granted to "Willielmo de Boterells in Cornubia, patri…predicti Willielmi" on his marriage[259]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Willelmus frater comitis Reginaldi" held half of one knight´s fee from "Roberti filii Regis" in Devon[260]. Benedict of Peterborough records that Henry II King of England granted the kingdom of Limerick to "Hereberti filio Hereberti, et Willelmo fratri comitis Reginaldi, et Joellano de la Pumerai nepoti eorum" at a council in Oxford in May 1177, but that "Herbertus et Willelmus, fratres Reginaldi comitis Cornubiæ, et Joellanus de Pumeria nepos eorum" declined it at a council at Marlborough 3 Jun 1177[261]. None of the primary sources so far consulted conclusively indicates whether William was the full brother of Earl Renaud or his uterine half-brother by their mother´s marriage to Herbert FitzHerbert. However, the order in which the individuals are named in the documents quoted above suggests that William was younger than Herbert, in which case it is more likely that he was the uterine brother of the earl. The question has been confused by the possible co-identity between William, brother of Earl Renaud, and Willliam brother of Sibyl Queen of Scotland. However, as discussed above, the chronology is unfavourable for this co-identity to be correct. m ALICE, daughter of ---. "Willelmus de Marisco frater Reginaldi comitis Cornubie" names his wife Alice in a charter[262].]

    13. [GUNDRED. The 1129/30 Pipe Roll records "Gunderede sorori Ragin. de Dunestanvilla" accounting for land in Wiltshire[263]. According to C. Phillips[264], this connection with Wiltshire makes it more likely that "Ragin. de Dunstanvilla" was a member of the Wiltshire Dunstanville family rather than the Earl of Cornwall. If that is correct, Gundred was not the daughter of King Henry I. This conclusion is also supported by the birth date ranges estimated for the earl of Cornwall ([1110/15], see above) and his uterine brother Herbert FitzHerbert ([1125/35], see UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY D-K), which render it unlikely that they would have had a sister who is recorded as a land-holder in 1130. "…Reinaldus de Dunstanvilla…" subscribed a charter dated 28 Jun 1121 under which "Willelmus filius regis" donated "terra…Grenta de Stoca" to Bath St Peter[265]. The Dunstanville family is shown in the document UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY D-K.]

    14. [ROHESE (-[1176]). The parentage of Rohese is uncertain. Renaud Earl of Cornwall granted Roseworthy manor in Cornwall to his sister "Rohesia de Pomeria" in a charter[266]. The wife of Henry de la Pomerai was therefore the daughter of Sibyl Corbet, either the king´s daughter or Rohese, daughter of Herbert FitzHerbert who later married Sibyl. m (1146 or before) HENRY [I] de la Pomerai, son of JOSCELIN de la Pomerai & his wife Emma --- (-[1156/64]).]

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    NOTE: Below entry from Medlands shows that Sibyl who married Alexander of Scotland was daughter of Mistress 4 and most probably NOT Sibyl Corbet:

    From: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#_Toc159664189

    King Henry I had two illegitimate children by Mistress(4):

    9. SIBYL ([1090/95]-Island of the Women, Loch Tay, Perthshire 12/13 Jul 1122, bur Island of the Women, Loch Tay). William of Malmesbury records the marriage of Alexander to the unnamed illegitimate daughter of King Henry, but adds "there was…some defect about the lady either in correctness of manners or elegance of person"[193], which appears to imply mental retardation. Her name is confirmed by various charters, including the charter dated to [1120] under which "Alexander…Rex Scottorum filius Regis Malcolmi et Reginæ Margaretæ et…Sibilla regina Scottorum filia Henrici regis Angliæ" made grants[194]. Considering the date of her marriage, it is unlikely that she was born much later than [1095]. The Complete Peerage[195] suggests that she was the daughter of Sibyl Corbet, both because of her name and also because of the possible co-identity of "…Willelmo fratre reginæ…", who witnessed the charter dated 1124 under which "Alexander…Rex Scottorum" granted jurisdiction to the prior of Scone[196], and "…Willielmo fratre meo…" who witnessed the charter dated to [1163/75] under which "Reginaldus, Henrici Regis filius, comes Cornubiæ" granted property to "Willielmo de Boterell, filio Aliziæ Corbet, materteræ meæ"[197]. However, this co-identity is not ideal from a chronological point of view. William, brother of Renaud Earl of Cornwall, died after 1187. If he was the same person as the brother of Sibyl Queen of Scotland, he could only have been a child when he subscribed the Scottish charters in which he is named. The documents give no indication of his youth, and in any case it is probable that the queen´s [full] brother would have been born around the same time as her. In addition, as noted below, it is possible that William, brother of Earl Renaud, may have been his uterine brother, in which case it is unlikely that he would have been chosen to accompany the queen to Scotland. Another factor is that the birth of Herbert FitzHerbert, son of Sibyl Corbet by her marriage, is estimated to [1125/35] (see UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY), which is clearly inconsistent with his having been the half-sister of the Scottish queen. In conclusion, it is preferable therefore to show the queen´s mother as unknown. m ([1107]) ALEXANDER I “the Fierce” King of Scotland, son of MALCOLM III "Caennmor/Bighead" King of Scotland & his second wife Margaret of England ([1077/78]-Stirling Castle 23, 25 or 27 Apr 1124, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife).

    10. WILLIAM ([1090/95]-after [1129/33]). "Willelmus frater reginæ…" witnessed the possibly spurious charter dated to [1120] of "Alexander…Rex Scottorum…Sibilla regina Scottorum…"[198]. ["Willelmus filius regis" donated "terra…Grenta de Stoca" to Bath St Peter by charter dated 28 Jun 1121, subscribed by "Patricius de Caurz, Hubertus de Sancta Susanna, Winebaldus de Baalun, Alexander de Alnoth, Reinaldus de Dunstanvilla, Giffardus de Salforda…"[199]. It is not certain that the donor was the same William as the brother of the queen of Scotland, although the presence of the latter in Scotland would not exclude him having land interests in Wiltshire.] "…Willelmo fratre reginæ…" witnessed the charter dated 1124 under which "Alexander…Rex Scottorum" granted jurisdiction to the prior of Scone[200]. Maybe Constable of Scotland until about 1122. It is assumed that he was born within the same timeframe as his sister, on the assumption that the king´s relationship with their mother was relatively short-lived. As discussed above under his sister Sibyl, William has been identified as the brother of Renaud Earl of Cornwall who is recorded as alive in 1187. This appears difficult to sustain from a chronological point of view. In any case, as discussed more fully below, it is more likely that William, brother of Earl Renaud, was the earl´s uterine brother, his mother´s son by her marriage to Herbert FitzHerbert. "William the king´s son" subscribed a charter of Robert de Tosny dated [1129/33][201].

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    Note:

    Sibyl (or Adela or Lucia) Corbet, living 1157, daughter and coheir of Robert Corbet, mistress of Henry I, lady of Alcester, co. Warwick and of Pontesbury and Woodcote, co. Salop (by Henry I she was mother of ReginaldFitz Roy, Earl of Cornwall). [Ancestral Roots]
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    The following additional info was supplied by Curt Hofemann,curt_hofemann@yahoo.com:
    no evidence to prove that Henry I married Sibyl [Ref: Sheppard Apr65 p96]
    It is because of Henry I's personal propensities that we know something of two Corbet women who occur in the records of this period. Of his numerous mistresses Sibyl Corbet, elder daughter of Robert fitzCorbet of Longden, must have been a favourite since she bore four,possibly five, of Henry's illegitimate children. [Ref: CP XI Appendix D]
    She had a younger sister Alice. Where, when and how the liaison began between Henry and Sibyl is a mystery. He had already had children by various mistresses: among the oldest must have been Juliane, who married Eustace de Pacy lord of Breteuil in 1103, and rebelled against herfather; and Robert, born of an unknown woman of Caen, who was created earl of Gloucester by his father in 1122. [Ref Corbet citing: CP V:683:the suggestion that he was the son of Sibyl Corbet is probably correct]
    The known children by Sibyl Corbet were Rainaud de Dunstanville, his brother William and sisters Gundred and Rohese; it is also possible, but not certain, that Sibyl was the mother of the king's illegitimate daughter Sibyl who was married to Alexander after he became king of the Scots in 1107. [Ref: Corbet citing: A.C. Lawrie, Early Scottish Charters,Glasgow 1905:charter XXXVI to Scone Priory, Alexander I, c. 1120, witnessed by Queen Sibyl and her brother William; she died 12 June 1122 on an island in Loch Tay to which Alexander granted charter XLVII, to canons of Scone]
    Note 1: Sheppard = Walter Lee Sheppard, Royal Bye-Blows II: The Illegitimate Royal Offspring from Edward III To Queen Anne, NEHGR vol 21,1967.
    Note 2: Corbet = The Corbett Study Group,http://website.lineone.net/~corbett_group/First/people.htm
    specifically: The Anglo Norman Corbets by Barbara Coulton.
    Regards,
    Curt
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    The following material was excerpted from The Corbet Study Group, J.C.Nobel, online at
    http://website.lineone.net/~corbett_group/First/people.htm:
    The Anglo Norman Corbets by Barbara Coulton
    Prominent at Matilda's 'court' were several connections of the Corbetfamily through Sibyl and her sister Alice. Sibyl had married Herbert fitzHerbert, a son of the chamberlain of Henry I; Alice married a kinsman of Brien fitz Count, of Wallingford, one of the empress's main supporters: he was William Boterel of Botreaux. Sibyl's son Herbert fitzHerbert married Lucy, daughter of Miles earl of Hereford. . . .
    We do not know when or where Sibyl and her sister Alice died, but there is an odd footnote to their history in an old account of Asthall church in Oxfordshire. "On the north side of the church ... is the effigy of afemale figure recumbent, on a stone coffin, situated within an elegantly Gothic arch. It is said to contain the remains of Alice Corbett, concubine to King Henry I., the daughter of Sir Robert Corbett of Warwickshire." So a memory lingered, though confused.
    Note: Was this "confused" effigy of Sibyl rather than Alice? Or was Alice also a mistress of Henry I?
    http://www.mathematical.com/corbetsybilla.html

    Lady Sybilla Corbet of Alcester was born in 1077 in Alcester in Warwickshire. She married Herbert FitzHerbert, son of Herbert 'the Chamberlain' of Winchester and Emma de Blois. She died after 1157 and was also known as Adela (or Lucia) Corbet.

    Sybilla was a mistress of King Henry I. By Henry I, Sybil was definitely mother of Sybil and Rainald, possibly also of William and Rohese. Some sources suggest that there was another daughter by this relationship, Gundred, but it appears that she was thought as such because she was a sister of Reginald de Dunstanville but it appears that that was another person of that name who was not related to this family. Chilren with Henry I:

    1.Sybilla de Normandy, married Alexander I of Scotland.

    2.William Constable, born before 1105. Married Alice (Constable); died after 1187.

    3.Reginald de Dunstanville, 1st Earl of Cornwall.

    4.Gundred of England (1114–46), married 1130 Henry de la Pomeroy, son of Joscelin de la Pomerai.

    5.Rohese of England, born 1114; married Henry de la Pomerai.

    6.Elizabeth of England married Fergus of Glloway and had issue.

    [G. E. Cokayne, in his Complete Peerage, Vol. XI, Appendix D pps 105-121 attempts to elucidate Henry I's illegiimate children. For Mistress Sybil Corbet, he indicates that Rohese married Henry de la Pomerai [ibid.:119]. In any case, the dates concerning Rohese in the above article are difficult to reconcile on face value, her purported children having seemingly been born before their mother, and also before the date of her mother's purported marriage.]

    Wikipedia:

    Lady Sybilla Corbet of Alcester was born in 1077 in Alcester in Warwickshire. She married Herbert FitzHerbert, son of Herbert 'the Chamberlain' of Winchester and Emma de Blois. She died after 1157 and was also known as Adela (or Lucia) Corbet. Sybil was definitely mother of Sybil and Rainald, possibly also of William and Rohese. Some sources suggest that there was another daughter by this relationship, Gundred, but it appears that she was thought as such because she was a sister of Reginald de Dunstanville but it appears that that was another person of that name who was not related to this family.

    Sybilla de Normandy , married Alexander I of Scotland

    William Constable, born before 1105. Married Alice (Constable); died after 1187.

    Reginald de Dunstanville, 1st Earl of Cornwall

    Gundred of England (1114–46), married 1130 Henry de la Pomeroy, son of Joscelin de la Pomerai.

    Rohese of England, born 1114; married William de Tracy (b. 1040 in Normandy, France d. 1110 in Barnstaple, Devon, England)son of Turgisus de Tracy. They married in 1075. They had four children 1)Turgisus II de Tracy b. 1066, 2) Henry de Tracy b. 1068, 3) Gieva de Tracy b. 1068 d. 1100, 4)Henry of Barnstaple Tracy b. 1070 d.1170.

    [G. E. Cokayne, in his Complete Peerage, Vol. XI, Appendix D pps 105-121 attemps to elucidate Henry I's illegiimate children. For Mistress Sybil Corbet, he indicates that Rohese married Henry de la Pomerai [ibid.:119]. In any case, the dates concerning Rohese in the above article are difficult to reconcile on face value, her purported children having seemingly been born before their mother, and also before the date of her mother's purported marriage.]

    Lady Sybilla Corbet of Alcester was born in 1077 in Alcester in Warwickshire, England. She died after 1157 and was also known as Adela (or Lucia) Corbet. Sybil was definitely mother of Sybil and Rainald, possibly also of William and Rohese. Children: 1. Rohese FitzRoy FitzHerbert b: 1114 in Blaen Llyfni, Brecknockshire, , Wales 2. Mabille Mabilie Richilde D'Angleterre b: ABT 1095 in England 3. Constance FitzHenry Princess Of England b: 1098 in Selby, Yorkshire, England 4. Reginald I Earl of Cornwall De Dunstanville b: 1110 in Kent, England 5. Robert I Earl of Gloucester De Caen b: 1090 in Caen, , Normandy, France 6. Sibyl Elizabeth of Scotland b: 1091 in Westminster, Middlesex, England
    Sibil is the ancestress of the Herbert's, Earls of Pembroke, the Finches, Earls of Winchelsea.
    Lady Sybilla Corbet of Alcester was born in 1077 in Alcester in Warwickshire, England. She died after 1157 and was also known as Adela (or Lucia) Corbet. Sybil was definitely mother of Sybil and Rainald, possibly also of William and Rohese. Children: 1. Rohese FitzRoy FitzHerbert b: 1114 in Blaen Llyfni, Brecknockshire, Wales 2. Mabille Mabilie Richilde D'Angleterre b: ABT 1095 in England 3. Constance FitzHenry Princess Of England b: 1098 in Selby, Yorkshire, England 4. Reginald I Earl of Cornwall De Dunstanville b: 1110 in Kent, England 5. Robert I Earl of Gloucester De Caen b: 1090 in Caen, , Normandy, France 6. Sibyl Elizabeth of Scotland b: 1091 in Westminster, Middlesex, England
    WAS THE MISTRESS OF HENRY 1 OF ENGLAND 1100

    Sybilla gift Henry I Beaucler OF ENGLAND 1083 (Frilla). Henry (son till William I "the Conqueror" FITZROBERT, DUKE OF NORMANDIE, KING OF ENGLAND) föddes 1068; dog 1135. [Familjeöversikt] [Familjediagram]

    Barn:
    1. 3. Prinsessa Elisabet FITZROY, PRINCESS OF ENGLAND  Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt föddes den 1083 - 1095 i Talby, Yorkshire, , England; dog den 12 Maj 1166 i Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland.
    2. 4. Rainald DE DUNSTANVILLE  Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt föddes 1112; dog 1140.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  Prinsessa Elisabet FITZROY, PRINCESS OF ENGLAND Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt (2.Sybilla2, 1.Robert1) föddes den 1083 - 1095 i Talby, Yorkshire, , England; dog den 12 Maj 1166 i Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland.

    Noteringar:

    Joan (Elizabeth)

    Notes: Not shown in The Complete Peerage, but shown in Weir as having an unknown mother. Father: Henry I Beauclerc, King of England, b. ABT SEP 1068. Mother: Corbet, Sybilla. Married to Fergus of Galloway. (Directory of Royal Genealogical Data, Hull, England)

    Olav Bitling (Dverg), kung av Söderöarna (Hebriderna), död ca 1153, gift med Afreca, dr av Fergus av Galloway och Elisabet, illegitim dr av Henry I, kung av England. (Fra Skanke-släktens historia, G.V.C. Young, stamtavla 1a)



    Elizabeth FitzRoy
    Also Known As: "Elizabeth de Talby", "Princess of England", "Isabel", "Princess Elizabeth Joan Fitz Henry of /England/", "Princess of /England/", "12751", "13147"
    Birthdate: cirka 1095
    Birthplace: Talby, Yorkshire, , England
    Death: 12 Maj 1166 (67-75)
    Edinburgh, Midlothian, , Scotland
    Begravningsort: England
    Närstående:
    Dotter till Henrik I, kung av England och Unconfirmed & U/K Mother of Elizabeth Joan or Emma
    Hustru till Fergus, Lord of Galloway
    Moder till Afreca nic Fergus of Galloway; Daughter Of Fergus, of Galloway; Uchtred mac Fergus, Lord of Galloway; Gilbert mac Fergus, Lord of Galloway och Douval De Galloway
    Syster till Emma Guyon FitzRoy
    Halvsyster till Euphemia (Name & Sex Unconfirmed) Child of Henry I & Mathilda; Empress Matilda; William Atheling, Duke of Normandy; Adelaide de Angers (Possibly Empress Mathilda); Robert de Caen, 1st Earl of Gloucester och 19 andra
    Occupation: Hertiginna, Princess of England, Illegitamate child of Henry I King of England, Hertiginna i Galloway, Skottland.




    About Elizabeth FitzRoy
    Elizabeth or Joan is an illegitimate daughter of Henry Beauclerc, but her mother is uncertain. It is probable that a daughter of Henry married Fergus. Whether Elizabeth was really married to Fergus of Galloway, or whether his children had a different mother is uncertain.

    Joan (?)1

    F, #106739

    Last Edited=3 May 2008

    Joan (?) was the daughter of Henry I 'Beauclerc', King of England.1 She married Fergus, Lord of Galloway.1
    Joan (?) was also known as Elizabeth (?).1
    Citations

    1. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Family: A Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 49. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Family.
    Elizabeth, natural daughter of Henry I, and sister of Sibilla, who married Alexander I, brother of David." [Ref: Sir Herbert Maxwell, "A History of Dumfries and Galloway" by Sir Herbert Maxwell, Edinburgh, 1896, pp. 47-48]

    sources needed. Not listed in FMG as daughter of Henry I. Not linked here to Henry I, just to one of his mistresses. Work needed.

    See "My Lines"

    ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p62.htm#i7938 )

    from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

    ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )

    Elizabeth, Princess of England was the daughter of Henry I 'Beauclerc,' King of England [1100-1135]. She was born in 1095 and died in Galloway, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland. Elizabeth married Fergus of Galloway circa 1115. Fergus was born circa 1090 in Carrick, Dundonald, Argyleshire, Scotland, died 12 May 1161 of Galloway, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland at age 71, and was buried in Holyrood Abbey, Edinburgh, Scotland.

    Children of Fergus of Galloway and wife Elizabeth, Princess of England:

    Utrech Of GALLOWAY was born circa 1120 in Carrick, Dundonald, Argyleshire, Scotland, died 22 Sep 1174, murdered in Loch Fergus, Scotland at age 54, and was buried of Carrick, Ayrshire, Scotland.
    Gilbert Of GALLOWAY Lord of Galloway was born circa 1125 in Wigtown, Galloway, Scotland and died 1 Jan 1185 in Carrick, Argyleshire, Scotland at age 60. Gilbert married UNKNOWN circa 1145. She was born circa 1125 and died at Carrick, Argyleshire, Scotland.
    Daughter of Fergus Of GALLOWAY was born circa 1115 in Galloway, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland and died in Scotland. She married Thomas DE CULWEN circa 1135. Thomas was born circa 1110 in Scotland and died in Scotland.
    Notes

    From Galloway in Ancient and Modern Times (Google eBook) Peter Handyside M'Kerlie.W. Blackwood and sons, 1891 - Galloway (Scotland) - 324 pages. page 155

    "It is necessary to repeat here that Fergus married Elizabeth, the natural daughter of King Henry I. of England. This king ruled from 1100 to 1135. Unless Fergus had been in England he could not have become acquainted with her and married before he became governor of Galloway, otherwise his descendants — three generations — would have had very short lives. Also, had he been a native, from the position apparently held from the first, he would have led the Galwegians at the Battle of the Standard, instead of Ulgric and Dovenald. That Fergus was married long before his connection with Galloway is supported by the facts that Olave, King of Man, began to reign in 1102, and that he married Affrica, the daughter of Fergus ..."

    Links to additional material:

    http://washington.ancestryregister.com/ENGLAND500006.htm#i4001
    About Elizabeth / Joan Illegitimate d/o Henry I (Of Gloucester) Elizabeth or Joan was an illegitimate daughter of Henry Beauclerc, but her mother is uncertain. It is probable that a daughter of Henry married Fergus. Whether Elizabeth was really married to Fergus of Galloway, or whether his children had a different mother is uncertain.

    Elizabeth or Joan was an illegitimate daughter of Henry Beauclerc, but her mother is uncertain. It is probable that a daughter of Henry married Fergus. Whether Elizabeth was really married to Fergus of Galloway, or whether his children had a different mother is uncertain.
    Fergus may have married an ilegitimate daughter of Henri Beauclerc, King Henry I of England. Her name, however, is unknown. One of the candidates is Sibylla, the widow of King Alexander of Scotland, but there is little evidence for this. Another candidate could be Elisabeth; but likewise, there is little evidence. If he did marry a daughter of Henry I, the marriage can be interpreted as part of the forward policy of Henry I in the northwest of his dominions and the Irish Sea zone in general, which was engineered in the second decade of the 12th century. It may have been during this time that Fergus began calling himself rex Galwitensium (King of Galloway). However, while his possible father-in-law lived, Fergus seems to have remained a faithful vassal to Henry.[1][2]

    From the Geni profile ...
    - Added by: Susan Bryant (Cranmer) on April 21, 2007 - Managed by: Jim Semple, Jr and 177 others - Curated by: Terry Jackson (Switzer)
    Elizabeth or Joan is an illegitimate daughter of Henry Beauclerc, but her mother is uncertain. It is probable that a daughter of Henry married Fergus. Whether Elizabeth was really married to Fergus of Galloway, or whether his children had a different mother is uncertain.

    Joan (?)1

    F, #106739

    Last Edited=3 May 2008

    Joan (?) was the daughter of Henry I 'Beauclerc', King of England.1 She married Fergus, Lord of Galloway.1

    Joan (?) was also known as Elizabeth (?).1

    Citations

    1. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Family: A Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 49. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Family.

    Elizabeth, natural daughter of Henry I, and sister of Sibilla, who married Alexander I, brother of David." [Ref: Sir Herbert Maxwell, "A History of Dumfries and Galloway" by Sir Herbert Maxwell, Edinburgh, 1896, pp. 47-48]

    sources needed. Not listed in FMG as daughter of Henry I. Not linked here to Henry I, just to one of his mistresses. Work needed.

    See "My Lines"

    ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p62.htm#i7938 )

    from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

    ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )

    Elizabeth, Princess of England was the daughter of Henry I 'Beauclerc,' King of England [1100-1135]. She was born in 1095 and died in Galloway, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland. Elizabeth married Fergus of Galloway circa 1115. Fergus was born circa 1090 in Carrick, Dundonald, Argyleshire, Scotland, died 12 May 1161 of Galloway, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland at age 71, and was buried in Holyrood Abbey, Edinburgh, Scotland.

    Children of Fergus of Galloway and wife Elizabeth, Princess of England: •Utrech Of GALLOWAY was born circa 1120 in Carrick, Dundonald, Argyleshire, Scotland, died 22 Sep 1174, murdered in Loch Fergus, Scotland at age 54, and was buried of Carrick, Ayrshire, Scotland. •Gilbert Of GALLOWAY Lord of Galloway was born circa 1125 in Wigtown, Galloway, Scotland and died 1 Jan 1185 in Carrick, Argyleshire, Scotland at age 60. Gilbert married UNKNOWN circa 1145. She was born circa 1125 and died at Carrick, Argyleshire, Scotland. •Daughter of Fergus Of GALLOWAY was born circa 1115 in Galloway, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland and died in Scotland. She married Thomas DE CULWEN circa 1135. Thomas was born circa 1110 in Scotland and died in Scotland.

    Notes

    From Galloway in Ancient and Modern Times (Google eBook) Peter Handyside M'Kerlie.W. Blackwood and sons, 1891 - Galloway (Scotland) - 324 pages. page 155

    "It is necessary to repeat here that Fergus married Elizabeth, the natural daughter of King Henry I. of England. This king ruled from 1100 to 1135. Unless Fergus had been in England he could not have become acquainted with her and married before he became governor of Galloway, otherwise his descendants — three generations — would have had very short lives. Also, had he been a native, from the position apparently held from the first, he would have led the Galwegians at the Battle of the Standard, instead of Ulgric and Dovenald. That Fergus was married long before his connection with Galloway is supported by the facts that Olave, King of Man, began to reign in 1102, and that he married Affrica, the daughter of Fergus ..."

    Links to additional material: •http://washington.ancestryregister.com/ENGLAND500006.htm#i4001

    About Elizabeth / Joan Illegitimate d/o Henry I (Of Gloucester) Elizabeth or Joan was an illegitimate daughter of Henry Beauclerc, but her mother is uncertain. It is probable that a daughter of Henry married Fergus. Whether Elizabeth was really married to Fergus of Galloway, or whether his children had a different mother is uncertain.

    Elizabeth (?) was born illegitimately. She is the daughter of Henry I 'Beauclerc', King of England

    Dotter (o.ä) till Henry I, kung av England. Hertiginna i Galloway, Skottland.

    Elisabet gift Fergus OF GALLOWAY 1099. Fergus föddes 1070 i Galloway, Skottland; dog 1161 i Edinburg, England. [Familjeöversikt] [Familjediagram]

    Barn:
    1. 5. Afreca NIC FERGUS OF GALLOWAY  Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt föddes 1099 i Galloway, Skottland; dog 1166 i Isle of Man, England.
    2. 6. Gilbert OF GALLOWAY  Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt föddes 1100; dog 1120.
    3. 7. Roland OF GALLOWAY  Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt föddes 1110; dog 1174.

  2. 4.  Rainald DE DUNSTANVILLE Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt (2.Sybilla2, 1.Robert1) föddes 1112; dog 1140.

    Noteringar:

    Earl (greve) i Cornwall, England.



Generation: 4

  1. 5.  Afreca NIC FERGUS OF GALLOWAY Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt (3.Elisabet3, 2.Sybilla2, 1.Robert1) föddes 1099 i Galloway, Skottland; dog 1166 i Isle of Man, England.

    Noteringar:

    Kändsom: "Aufricia of Isle of Man", "montagu", "Aufrica", "Afreca", "Aufrcia", "Queen of Isle of Man", "Queen of Man"

    Afreca gift Kung Olof "Bitling" GUDRÖDSSON OF ISLE OF MAN 1127. Olof (son till Kung Gudröd II "Crovan" HARALDSSON och Drottning Ragnhild Maria) föddes 1080 i Isle of Man, England; dog den 29 Jun 1153 i Ramsey, Isle of Man, England. [Familjeöversikt] [Familjediagram]

    Barn:
    1. 8. Godred "the Black" Olofsson OF ISLE OF MAN  Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt föddes 1127 i Isle of Man, England; dog den 10 Nov 1187 i Isle of Man, England; begravdes Dec 1187 i Iona, Hebriderna, Skottland.

  2. 6.  Gilbert OF GALLOWAY Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt (3.Elisabet3, 2.Sybilla2, 1.Robert1) föddes 1100; dog 1120.

  3. 7.  Roland OF GALLOWAY Grafiskt ättlingaverk till denna punkt (3.Elisabet3, 2.Sybilla2, 1.Robert1) föddes 1110; dog 1174.