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- Torberg Arnesson, of Giske
Norska: Torberg Arnesson, til Giske
Also Known As: "Torberg Arneson"
Birthdate: cirka 990
Birthplace: Giske, Møre og Romsdal, Norway
Death: cirka 1050 (52-68)
Giske, Møre og Romsdal, Norway
Närstående:
Son till Arne Arnmodson, til Giske och Tora Torsteinsdatter Galge
Make till Astrid (Ragnhild) Erlingsdotter, fra Sola
Fader till Arnbjørn Giske; Eystein Orri Orre Torbergson; Ogmund Torbergsson Giske, Skofte; Tora Giske; Jorunn Torbergsdotter; och Arne Torbergsson Laage, Giske « mindre
Bror till Arne Arnesson Giske; Kalv Arnesson, til Egge; Ragnhild Arnesdatter av Giske; Finn Arnesson, Jarl of Halland; Kolbjørn Arneson Giske; Arnbjørn Arnesson och Aamund Arnesson Giske « mindre
- About Torberg Arnesson, of Giske
Torberg Arnesson, of Giske
Parents: Arni Arnmodsson Giske & Tora Thorsteinsdotter
Torberg was probably his father's oldest son. In 1025 he became a lover at Møre, where he was succeeded by his son, Øystein
Thorberg Arneson was a good and faithful friend of Olav the saint. Hard drill at Stiklestad 1030. Married to Ragnhild, daughter of Erling Skjalgson at Sole. A daughter Thora Thorbergsdtr. was married to King Harald Hardy.
Torberg was the son of Arne Arnmodsson at Giske, who belonged to the powerful eagle meeting. Both Torberg and his brothers Kalv, Finn and Arne played prominent roles in Norway in the first half of the 1000s. The father had been King Olav the saint's lover, and Torberg also stood on the king's side. He followed him in exile, and participated in the battle at Stiklestad in 1030, where he was wounded.
Torberg Arneson at Giske (worked in the first half of the 1000s) was a Norwegian chieftain and ancestor of the Giskeketen.
Spouse
Married: Ragnhild (Astrid) Erlingsdotter Sola
Torberg & his wife RAGNHILD Erlingsdatter had four children:
1. EYSTEIN Orre (-killed in battle 25 Sep 1066). Morkinskinna names “Eysteinn orri, son of Thorbergr and grandson of Árni”[43]. Morkinskinna records that “Eystein Orri” was killed in battle in England with Harald III King of Norway[44]. Betrothed ([early 1066]) to MARIA, daughter of HARALD III King of Norway & his wife Ielizaveta Jaroslavna (-25 Sep 1066). Morkinskinna records that King Harald had promised “his daughter Máría” to “Eystein Orri” when they returned after their invasion of England in 1066[45].
2. OGMUND Thorbergsson . His name is confirmed by Snorre naming his son "Skopte Ogmundson, a grandson of Thorberg"[46]. m ---. The name of Ogmund´s wife is not known. Ogmund & his wife had one child:
a) SKOPTI Ogmundsson of Giske (-Rome 1103). Snorre names "Skopte Ogmundson, a grandson of Thorberg", when recording that he "dwelt at Giske in Sunmore"[47]. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that Skopte died in Rome, and that his sons also died during the journey[48]. m GUDRUN, daughter of THORD Folason & his wife ---. Snorre names "Gudrun, a daughter of Thord Folason" as the wife of "Skopte Ogmundson"[49]. Skopti & his wife had four children:
i) OGMUND (-[1103]). Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife[50]. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that Skopte died in Rome, and that his sons also died during the journey[51].
ii) FINN (-[1103]). Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife[52]. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that Skopte died in Rome, and that his sons also died during the journey[53].
iii) TORD (-Sicily [1103]). Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife[54]. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that his sons all died during the journey, Tord dying last in Sicily[55].
iv) THORA Skoptisdatter. Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife, specifying that Thora married "Asolf Skulason"[56]. In an earlier Saga, Snorre names "Thora, a daughter of Skopte Ogmundson" as the wife of "Asolf of Reine"[57]. m ASULF Skulesson of Rein, son of SKULI Tostesson & his wife Gudrun Nefsteinsdatter.
3. THORA Thorbergsdotter ([1020/25-). Snorre names "Thora, daughter of Thorberg Arnason" as mother of King Harald's sons Magnus and Olav[58]. Morkinskinna records that King Harald had married “the daughter of Thorbergr Árnason…Thóra”[59]. Her birth date range is estimated on the assumption that her relationship with King Harald started around the time of his accession to the Norwegian throne, corroborated by the fact that her son King Magnus was old enough to have fathered a son before his death in 1069. Mistress: of HARALD III "Hardråde" King of Norway, son of SIGURD Syr King of Ringeringe & his wife Asta Gudbrandsdatter (1015-killed in battle Stamfordbridge 25 Sep 1066). Mistress: of ---. Her other relationship is proved by Snorre recording that her grandson "Hakon…was fostered by Thorer of Steig in Gudbrandsdal, who was a brother of King Magnus by the mother's side"[60], although no indication has so far been found of the identity of Thorer's father. It is assumed that this relationship predated her relationship with King Harald, as it is likely that Thorer would have been older than his half-brother King Magnus to have been chosen as foster-father for his nephew. [m (1066 or after) as his third wife, SVEND II King of Denmark, son of ULF Thrugilson & his wife Estrid [Margrete] Svendsdatter of Denmark ([1020]-Søderup [29] Apr 1074, bur Roskilde Cathedral). According to Brenner[61], Thora Thorbergsdotter is identified with Thora who was the wife ofKing Svend and mother of his son Magnus. Christiansen considers that this identification is farfetched, considering her age at the time of the supposed marriage[62]. There appears to be another chronological problem: the proposed consecration of Thora's son Magnus at Rome is best explained if he was King Svend's oldest son, which would place his birth (and therefore his parents' marriage) in the late 1030s.]
4. JORUNN Thorbergsdotter . Morkinskinna records the marriage of “Jórunn, the daughter of Thorbergr Árnason” and “Úlfr Óspaksson…the marshal”[63]. Snorre names "Jorun, Thorberg's daughter, a sister of Harald's wife Thora" as wife of "Ulf Uspakson…his marshal" and their children "Joan the Strong of Rasvol, and Brigida mother of Sauda-Ulf, who was father of Peter Byrdar-Svein, father of Ulf Fly and Sigrid. Joan the Strong's son was Erlend Himalde, father of Archbishop Eystein and his brothers"[64]. m ULF Ospaksson Stallare (-1066). Descendants in ES II 107.
Source Project MedLands Norway Nobility - http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORWEGIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#ThorbergArnessonMRagnhild
History
Tvar vistnok sin fars eldste sønn. Han ble i 1025 lendmann på Møre hvor han ble etterfulgt av sin sønn, Øystein Orre.
fra Snorre Sturlasson: Olav den helliges saga:
(Etter striden mellom Ragnhild og Torberg om Stein Skaftesson).
After the battle between Ragnhild and Torberg about Stein Skaftesson).
«138th ... After Christmas, messengers from the king came to Torberg with a message that he should come to the king before mid-fixed, and with strict order to follow the commandment. Torberg leaned it to his friends and asked for advice if he was to venture as much as traveling to the king as the case was, and there were many who advised him of it and said it was safer to look to get rid of Stein first and then go into the king's power. Torberg had the most desire not to postpone it with the journey.
A little later, Torberg went to his brother Finn and handed the case to him and asked him to accompany him. Finn replied, he said he thought it was a bad thing to lie down in the queue of women so that he could not keep his word against his master for his wife. "You can't stop coming if you don't want to," Torberg said, "but I think now that you are more afraid of fidelity to the king." They parted in anger.
Then Torberg went to Arne Arnesson, his brother, and told him how the matter was, and asked him to accompany him to the king. Arne said, "It's strange to you, I think, as wise a man as you are, and so caring, that you should have rushed into such an accident and got the king's fuss over you when there was no necessity for it. It could even have been an excuse if it had been your kinsman you took off or a foster brother, but there is no point in such a thing, taking care of an Icelander and having a man with whom the King has made an outlaw; and now you will bet both yourself and all your kinsmen. "Torberg said:" It is as they say that one is the disgrace of every generation. The accident father had, I see now quite clearly, he was unlucky with his sons, since he would eventually get someone who has no resemblance to our family, but is without measures. If I didn't think it was ashamed to say this about my mother, then I would never call you our brother. "Then Torberg turned and went, he went home and was pretty much out of his mind. Afterwards he sent bids north of Trondheimen to Calv, his brother, and asked him to come and meet him at Agdenes. And when the messengers came to Calf, he promised to come and did not say a word.
Ragnhild sent some men east of Jæren to his father Erling and asked him to send help to her. Then came Erling's sons, Sigurd and Tore, and each of them had a twenty-sixth with ninety men on board. When they came north to Torberg, he welcomed them at the best and with great joy. Then he prepared himself for the journey, and Torberg also had a twenty-one. They headed north. When they came to Trondheim's memory, all Finn and Arne lay there, the brothers of Torberg, with two twenty-six. Torberg greeted his brothers happily, and said that the browning had enough bites on them. Finn said it wasn't often needed with him. Then they sailed with this whole fleet to Trondheim, and Stein was with them yet. And when they came to Agdenes, Calv lay Arnesson and waited, and he had a thirty-second with good crew. With this fleet they sailed into Nidarholm and lay there overnight. The next morning they had a conversation with each other; Calf and Erling's sons wanted them to sail into the city with the whole fleet and then let their luck go, but Torberg wanted them to first be careful and make offers, it was Finn and Arne agreed. Then it was settled so that Finn and Arne went to King Olav first and had few men.
The king had heard how powerful they were, and he was quite angry when he talked to them. Finn made an offer for Torberg and for Stein, he offered that the king should judge such large monetary fines he wanted, but Torberg would be allowed to stay in the country and have his shackles, Stein should have peace on life and limbs. The king said, "For me it looks like you have set it so that you now mean you are half with me or more. It was the last thing I had expected of you brothers to go against me with an army; I can notice on this plan that these are the jungle bases that have put it into action. But you don't have to give me money. ”Then Finn said,“ We ??brothers have not gathered army because we want to offer you peace, king. On the contrary, we want to offer you our service first. But if you refuse and think to let Torberg suffer any harm, then we will go with all the army we have, to Knut the mighty. "Then the king looked at him and said," If your brothers will swear an oath to me in that that ye shall follow me inwardly and abroad, and shall not be separated from me, except I consent unto it, and not hide it from me, if ye shall know of betrayal against me, then I will accept the settlement of you brethren. "
Then Finn returned to the army and said what a choice the king had given them. Now each said his own opinion; Torberg said that for his party he would accept this condition; "I have no desire to escape from my properties and travel to foreign chiefs," he said. "I mean it will always honor me to follow King Olav and be where he is." Then Calf said, "I will not give oath to the king, and I will only be with the king as long as I have my gear. and the other dignities, and as long as the king will be my friend. And that's my wish a
Text: Tore Nygaard
Source:
Snorre Sturlasson: Olav the saint's saga, paragraphs 22, 110, 138, 231, 242; Harald Hardrådes saga, section 33. Cappelen's Norwegian History, Volume 2 and 3. C.M. Munthe: Norwegian badges, NST Volume I (1928), page 341. Mogens Bugge: Our ancestors, no. 797. Bent and Vidar Billing Hansen: Ancestors of the Rosary, page 17, 93.
History of Giske municipality, Møre og Romsda
GISKE is located in Giske municipality, Møre og Romsdal. The location is on the west side of the island of Giske.
This was among the oldest manor houses in Norway. And here the mighty Giske family, also called the Arnung or Arnmødlig family, had its origin. From the 9th century until 1582, an unbroken family line can be followed. The origins of the genus are spanned with legends. The pedigree, Finnvid Funnen, according to Arnungatal, must have been found in an eagle's ear wrapped in silk. Some of the descendants had joints like -arine and -arn in the names, which simply means eagle. The first of this family that a vet lived on Giske was Torberg Arnesson, brother of Kalv Arnesson on Egge and Finn Arnesson on Austrått. They were descendants in the sixth paragraph after Finnvid.
Torberg was married to Astrid, daughter of the powerful brain Erling Skjalgsson at Sola. According to the saga, Torberg was to be both brave and faithful, but not as resourceful and active as his brother Kalv. It had to be someone else who could make the decision and give the order, only then could it be traded. Especially an episode shows this clearly. Astrid was in birth. It was a hard birth, and regular midwifery did not stretch. In her great distress, Astrid would have the help of a priest, but there was no one nearby. In the harbor close by was an Icelandic chieftain, Stein Skaftesson, with his ship. He had a young Icelandic priest as a passenger. People from the chieftain came down and wanted the priest to help the giving woman. The priest was unfamiliar with this and prayed away, but nevertheless willingly told Stein if he helped to help. So it was, they went up and helped. The child, a girl, was released, and the priest baptized her. Stein also gave the child a gold ring. Astrid promised that if Stein ever came in need and danger he would come to her, she would help him. Stein then went to Nidaros to meet King Olav. The king was not always the easiest to sweeten, Stein is reckless, and it came to hostility between them. After that, Stein was held back in Nidaros against his will. But one night he escaped from the bargain just on foot. Eventually he came to Orkdalen. There he killed the king's husband, who refused him lodging. He then took a horse that belonged to the old man, and then traveled on to Møre. To get a ride and lodge, Stein decided to go to the king's representative. One night he came to Giske, and as last visit was not Torberg at home. Astrid welcomed him, and now he demanded that she keep her promise. Stein then told about the enmity with the king, the murder, the horse theft, and the false statements about traveling in the king's errand. King Olav also wanted him to pay for this. Astrid was not afraid of her, she held onto what she had promised. She asked Stein to stay with her, and she took care of him as a dear guest.
Meanwhile, Torberg had heard how Astrid had settled at Giske. As a lover, his duties were clear, he was obliged to imprison the killer Stein. Then he would be taken to the king to get his sentence. Torberg then went home to Giske and told Astrid what he was going to do. But then he got an answer from her, either Stein would have been tempted at Giske, or she came to travel his way and take with him the farm boy, Eystein Orre. Torberg yielded to his wife's strong will, and now proved brave because others had made the decision for him. He then went to his brother Finn and demanded his help, but was mocked for the skirt regime that prevailed on Giske. Then he took his way to his youngest brother Arne, but he was also not keen on daring life and goods to help an outlaws alien. Then he sent bids to Calv for help. And as usual, he was the counselor and saw yes right away. Meanwhile, Astrid had sent her father to Sola, and her brothers Sigurd and Tore were sent north to Giske with ships and armed crew. It was now up to Finn and Arne that Calv here had looked right. Only by an unbreakable cohesion and fearless progress could a salvage of the descendant of the untrained astrid have led it up. With six ships and 540 men, they now entered Nidarholmen. In the shop, things were arranged with the king. The force out on the islet was an argument that was not to come by, and Olav gave in to the main thing that Stein had to get danger in peace. It was then decorated with the king's defeat. The Arnung brothers, except Calv, swore obedience and allegiance to the King for posterity.
Then it took a few years, and Olav Haraldsson had to carry out a rather humiliating escape from Norway. With this escape, the brothers Torberg, Finn and Arne followed. For a year and a half, Torberg was escaping from Gardarike. In 1030 he returned to Norway with Olav, and fought at the king's side at Stiklestad. After this, Torberg was not much talked about, and around 1050 he must have been dead. The next who took over Giske was probably Eystein Torbergsson Orre.
(Torberg belonged to the island of Giske in Sunnmøre. He belonged to a family called the Arnmead Natives. The Arnhem Natives belonged to what has been called the "Coastal Aristocracy", great chiefs who were tied to each other by marriage o
Lendermann. Kilde: nermo.org
LINKS
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torberg_Arneson
https://nbl.snl.no/Torberg_Arnesson
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giske%C3%A6tten
http://oddso.nvg.org/nsh/vn-giske.html
https://lokalhistoriewiki.no/wiki/Giskeætta
Sources
For å lese om denne fra Olav den Helliges saga: http://poulkryger.dk/pf418da3d.html
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